"Recount," an HBO film about the contested 2000 presidential election and the Bush v. Gore Supreme Court ruling, stars Kevin Spacey as Democratic insider Ron Klain.
Klain, who served as Gore's chief of staff and helped run the vice president's recount effort in 2000, told me he is pleased with the Kevin Spacey casting. However, he pointed out that the talented Eve Gordon, who played his wife Monica in the film, is 10 years older than Monica was in 2000 "and not nearly as gorgeous."
Meanwhile, Klain scolded me for saying "BWI airport" rather than its full name ("Baltimore-Washington International Thurgood Marshall Airport") and for not paying close enough attention to my cousin-in-law's research on Robert Jackson.
Below is our conversation:
D.C., we're told, is Hollywood for ugly people. And yet they got a balding guy to play you. What's up with that?
Kevin Spacey is balding, but he is better looking than me, and a two-time Oscar winner, so it is hard to complain. The person with a gripe is my wife, who was played in the movie by a very nice and talented actress – but one who is 10 years older than she was in 2000, and not nearly as gorgeous. How many people can say that their “real” wife is hotter than the actress who played her in a film?
In 2004, you worked for Wesley Clark before joining John Kerry's campaign. What it's like to arrive at a campaign having come from an opponent?
A certain amount of prostrating yourself in humble apology is required. But in a reasonably competitive multi-candidate primary (as the 2004 election was), 80% of the talent in the party winds up working for a losing candidate. Those who work for the winner know that they need to welcome those who chose wrongly. It could, after all, be them the next time around.
When HBO releases "Recount" on DVD, will it include a deleted scene in which I'm in your house admiring your collection of pictures of you and Al Gore… and saying to myself, "Wow, this guy really likes Al Gore"?
I’m fairly certain that there are no scenes from my home on the DVD. There may, however, be this nice chat between Kevin Spacey and myself, held in a “fake” living room that is not my home, but bears some resemblance to it … if my home were atop an office building in New York City instead of in suburban D.C. As to your other point, yes, I do like Al Gore, and there are a number of pictures of him hanging up in my REAL home.
Is it hard to joke about the film, given that it can be painful to relieve that moment in American history?
Joking about the film is easy; joking about the recount itself is hard. What happened in Florida in 2000 was a travesty and an injustice on many different levels – a failure of both our political system and our legal system. And the consequences for our country – the cost of the Bush presidency – has been tragic. I rarely go a day without thinking about it.
What did John McCain mean when he delivered this line in a speech: "We should be able to deliver bottled hot water to dehydrated babies"?
I believe that this is one of a number of criticisms, some veiled, some explicit, of the Bush administration’s performance over the past eight years; this one refers to the botched relief efforts following Hurricane Katrina. Sen. McCain is doing a decent job of building the case against the Bush presidency – he spent almost as much time [in that speech] attacking President Bush as he did attacking Senator Obama. There are only two serious problems with this aspect of the McCain message. First, he voted for most of the major policies of the Bush presidency. Second, he isn’t running against President Bush.
What do you think the BWI logo is supposed to resemble?
I assume it’s a 1970s logo that was meant to suggest the Concorde or some other high-tech plane. But the important point is that BWI airport is now named after Thurgood Marshall, for whom we will celebrate the centennial of his birth in a few weeks (on July 2, 2008). You would know this if you paid closer attention to the Robert Jackson Center-related emails sent out by your cousin-in-law.